Sunday, 26 October 2025

God is still speaking. I believe it; that settles it!

 Text of a sermon preached at Christchurch Methodist Fellowship Marlborough on 20th October 2025


Which Bible verse is the most dangerous? We could discuss it for some while. But one that would certainly be a contender in my opinion is this one

16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,  (2 Timothy 3:16) or "All scripture is inspired by God," depending on which version or translation you use.

Very often people who quote this verse as justification for some stance or other may well also subscribe to the view summed on a bumper sticker I saw once  "The Bible says it; I believe it; that settles it."

Just what did God's breathing or inspiring entail? Some people say that God dictated the words themselves. And the authors of the various books were nothing more than recording secretaries who faithfully reproduced what they had been instructed by God to write it down. That is the position Muslims take regarding the Qu'ran, and that is why Muslims insist that it be studied in Arabic, because translations cannot accurately render the original exactly. Those who claim that this is the way we got our Bible will add that it is only exact in what are called the original "autographs." Subsequent copies and translations are possibly slightly flawed. Which begs the question Shouldn’t Christians who take this viewpoint only read the Bible in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek?

Another way of explaining God's breathing or inspiring is to say that rather God dictating the Bible, God "inspired" human authors to use their own words to convey God’s eternal truth. This is the position that most reputable Bible scholars hold today. It certainly explains why there are such vast stylistic and literary differences from one book of the Bible to another.

But this leads to another "danger" when considering in this verse. If all scripture is God-breathed or inspired, can there be any errors of any kind in it? The traditional response through the centuries was absolutely not.

About 150 years ago, scholars began to question that hard-and-fast position. They began to point out that there are indeed contradictions and factual errors here and there — minor ones, to be sure, but there nonetheless. As might be expected, traditionalists went ballistic and the result was huge controversy within the Church, and even splits in some mainline denominations. Why all the passion? Because some people took the view that "All scripture is God-breathed ... inspired" (2 Timothy 3:16). The Bible says it; I believe it; that settles it. In my opinion this is dangerous.

I confess that until he was murdered about two months ago I’d not heard of American Charlie Kirk. Let me say his murder was appalling. But equally appalling in my opinion is the way he is now becoming some kind of martyr for those of his followers who claim to be Christians, followers of Jesus in other words.

From all I’ve read since about him, Charlie Kirk was one of The Bible says it; I believe it; that settles it tribe.

This stance enabled him to find justification in the Bible for his views on all manner of things from race, on feminism, immigration. I’m purposely not quoting some of these views as I feel they are offensive. It is attitudes like Charlie Kirk’s that are dangerous.

Christians who use selected verses of the Bible to justify a view point are dangerous.

As Presbyterian minister William Sloane Coffin once bemoaned "Some Christians use the Bible much as a drunk does a lamppost — more for support than for illumination."

Staying with America for a moment. Around 20 years ago there was an excellent American TV series called The West Wing. Some of you may have seen it. It was a drama based on the fictional American President Josiah “Jed” Bartlett played by Martin Sheen. Bartlett was portrayed as an intelligent, well read man. He was also a devote, liberal, Roman Catholic.


In one episode of the series Bartlett is confronted at the White House by Dr Jena Jacobs, a woman who hosted a Bible based radio programme that espoused very right wing, fundamentalist views.

Bartlett says to her:

“Dr Jenna I like your show. I like how you call homosexuality an abomination.”

“I don’t say homosexuality is an abomination, Mr. President,” she replied haughtily. “The Bible does.”

“Yes, it does!” he shouted. “Leviticus 18:22.” The president was just warming up. “I wanted to ask you a couple of questions while I had you here. I’m interested in selling my youngest daughter into slavery as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. She’s attending  Georgetown University, speaks fluent Italian, always cleared the table when it was her turn. What would a good price for her be?”

Bartlett continued: “While you’re thinking about that, can I ask another? My chief of staff, Leo McGarry, insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly says he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself or is it OK to call the police?”

Now on a roll, the president steamed on triumphantly. “Here’s one that’s really important, ‘cause we’ve got a lot of sports fans in this town. Touching the skin of a dead pig makes one unclean, Leviticus 11:7. If they promise to wear gloves, can the Washington Redskins still play American football?”

Then he says answer me this

“Can I burn my mother in a small family gathering for wearing garments made from two different threads? The Bible tells me I can.

He concludes “Think about those questions, would you?”

(You can watch the clip here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIHjoT19XpE) 

The Bible says it; I believe it; that settles it. Does it?

Going back to the passage from 2 Timothy. Before coming to the infamous verse 16, the writer of the letter to Timothy – possibly Paul - says to Timothy

14But as for you, continue in what you have learned and firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it, 15and how from childhood you have known the sacred writings that are able to instruct you for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.

This is really important. Paul recognises the importance of the teaching Timothy has received. And the quality of the teachers. At the start of the second letter Paul opens by thanking God for Timothy and Timothy’s family. Paul specifically mentions Timothy’s grandmother Lois, and Timothy’s mother, Eunice. Both of these women had immersed the young Timothy in the story of the Hebrew Scriptures and instilled in him a deep faith in the Messiah, Jesus. 

Oh, the irony. Many of those who belong to the school of The Bible says it; I believe it; that settles it and quote 2 Timothy 3:16 give no credence to the teaching of women. Yet the very same Book of the Bible they cite for Biblical authority, shows how important good female teachers are.

Paul isn’t concerned about the gender of those who taught Timothy. The key for Paul  is that Timothy received proper teaching.

Authority in matters of truth and doctrine does not come from charismatic speakers who might charm an audience, or from propositions that might ease ones way of living. But from sound doctrine. Paul warned Timothy

3For the time is coming when people will not put up with sound doctrine, but having itching ears, they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own desires, 4and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander away to myths.

Instead, authentic authority comes from the experience and insights of those who have lived their faith and shared it with the church. Not just through scripture.

The United Church of Christ denomination in the USA has as its slogan “God is still speaking.”

I really like that. “God is still speaking.” In other words, God is still leading us on to understand more of him and of his truth. Our understanding of God doesn’t depend wholly on scripture.

In John’s Gospel (John 16:12-13) Jesus says:

12 ‘I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 When the Spirit of truth comes, the Spirit will guide you into all the truth;

In other words, we don’t know the whole of the Gospel – the Good News. It is constantly being revealed to us, and the Holy Spirit helps us to understand God’s further revelations. God’s continuing revelations come to us through the Bible, through Church tradition, through critical thinking and through experience – our own and the experience of others.  The Holy Spirit helps us hear God speak today. For God is still speaking. We should not assume that everything God said was in a book, parts of which were written 4,000 years ago, and that God has since shut up! As the comedy actress Gracie Allen once insightfully said: “Never place a full stop where God has placed a comma.”

I’ve not touched on our Gospel reading (Luke 18: 1 - 8)

There is plenty in that for a sermon. But briefly  I do want us to think about a verse in the Gospel passage.

In the passage Jesus is teaching on prayer and the persistence of prayer. But also Jesus reminds us of the importance of justice.

In verse 7 Jesus says:

 And will not God bring about justice for his chosen ones, who cry out to him day and night?

Jesus spoke far more about justice, and compassion, and love for our neighbours, than he did about many of the things the Charlie Kirks of this world keep banging on about. Wouldn’t the world be a better place if Christians worked for justice for all people rather than wagging the finger? Wouldn’t the world be a better place if, for example, instead of castigating women who have abortions, because the Bible says abortion is wrong, followers of Jesus worked to ensure women had access to better contraception and healthcare? Wouldn’t the world be a better place if those of us who are Jesus’ followers, or claim to be, acted more like him?

In an interview a few years ago, actor Sir Ian McKellern said “I’ve often thought the Bible should have a disclaimer in the front saying this is a work of fiction.”

Peter Holmes quotes this in his commentary [1] on this passage. Holmes suggests that the Bible doesn’t need such a disclaimer. Rather Holmes says, it needs the following warning to those who would read it

“The Bible is so true that it will read you. Do not just read it alone. You are outmatched.”

Holmes explains that what he means is that as we read the Bible, and study it with the help of good teachers, we discover that above all we are outmatched by the love and grace of God. By God who has given us his word, and given us his son, so that we might know life in all its fullness, here and in the life to come.

God is still speaking. I believe it; that settles it!

Amen.



[1] Feasting on the word Preaching the Revised Common Lectionary Year C Volume 4. 2010 Westminster John Knox Press

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